Future Chi
A daoist and a designer explore design, technology, health and wellbeing, and the future of everything. Join Jost Sauer (author, rebel therapist, daoist and expert in traditional Chinese medicine) and Leon Fitzpatrick (industrial and experience designer, educator and futurist), as they discuss health, daoism, design, cars, martial arts, the search for purpose, and the meaning of life. Unplanned, off the cuff, and spontaneous. Welcome to the Future Chi podcast! For more about Jost: https://jostsauer.com/ For more about Leon: https://www.futurethingy.com/
Episodes

Monday Jul 22, 2024
Monday Jul 22, 2024
The broader the spectrum of reality and the wider open the channels of interaction we have with one another, the more difficult it becomes to find people on the same wavelength that we can talk to, trust, and be ourselves around. Like scrolling through radio stations, the more frequencies we have to choose from the harder it becomes to find the right song, at the right time.
In this week’s episode Jost and Leon turn on, tune in, but definitely don’t drop out as they discuss how to get past the static, polarity, and confusion of current times and bring into focus a brighter future. Jost gets into the surprising alignment between the meridians in Chinese medicine, the pyramids of ancient Egypt, chakras, the pineal gland and the zodiac (yep there is one), and how - like the the pyramids - we need to build ourselves on strong foundations if we’re going to be able to handle the relentless intensity of thoughtforms, EMFs, and invasive energies that constantly bombard us. He also talks about the criticality of connecting with the Metal element by rising early, how to establish forcefields, and how nomads and travellers are creating a new future by departing from traditional real estate and instead tapping into the energetics of the land. Leon talks about time slippage, sacred geometry, how the simplicity of creativity is a gateway to the profound, the artificial orchestration of culture in corporations and institutions, and wonders how many times you need to reincarnate in order to finally pay off your mortgage.
Jost and Leon also discuss what would happen if they met Bill Gates in an elevator, the role of people you disagree with, the idea of the ‘rave estate’, unified fields, high-rise living, the importance of getting grounded, and the race towards the new.
The disconnection we’re currently feeling is one of many signs that this is not the way forward. The arcane systems we find ourselves tethered to keep us disconnected from one another and yet centrally controlled, and these centralised networks are showning signs of fragility and volatility. The answer is to build a new internalised network - our own energetic intranet - get connected to the earth, and get connected to truly likeminded people who are ready to set out in search of new frontiers. Saddle up!
For more about Jost: https://jostsauer.com/
For more about Leon: https://futurethingy.com/

Sunday Jul 07, 2024
Sunday Jul 07, 2024
Respectful discourses, nuanced conversations, and the ability to explore and express ideas that challenge mainstream thinking seems to be a thing of the past. These days it’s hard to have a conversation without fear of judgement or the feeling that someone is picking a side for you (even if you haven’t picked one for yourself). Ideas have been replaced by ideologies, and as a result extremism, tribalism and the need to constantly fight for the ‘right’ side of an issue keeps us divided and angry at one another. Inflammatory thoughts, words, and actions don’t come out of the blue, and in typical Future Chi fashion we need look no further than within to figure out what’s going on.
In this episode Jost and Leon turn up the heat and get into the role that inflammation plays in how we perceive the world and the reality we create as a result. Like forging steel, accomplishing something worth doing requires heat and stress, but also a cooling and repairing process in order for it to achieve it’s full strength and potential. Burning the old in order to create the new means that we must experience inflammation - but if we remain in that phase of the process without a path forward, things take a turn for the worse. Jost talks about his early experiences with Marxism and how it’s become so unrecognisable that it may as well be called something else (which leads to a brainstorming session). Jost also gets into the process of inflammation from a health, bodybuilding, and traditional Chinese medicine perspective and how to treat this naturally by focusing on Blood production, building new tissues and choosing the right foods and herbs. He also discusses the madness of the dying world and the need to access portals to our higher selves, the importance of transcending emotionality, and how to avoid being entangled in the mundane and negative aspects of life and instead focus on community, sharing, and awakening. Leon talks about the learned-not-felt nature of ideology, the insanity of spray painting Stone Henge to express an ‘environmental’ message, the pointlessness of anarchy without vision, what Darth Vader and the outgoing elites have in common, and what Wim Hoff would have done if he was on the Titanic.
The focus on doom, gloom and the inevitability of the apocalypse takes us closer to that reality, but these are the trappings of the dying world that would rather have us rearrange the chairs on the Titanic instead of being captains of our own ship. If we’re to approach the future with trust, sympathy and understanding then we must be prepared to burn ourselves in our own flame first - to build and temper ourselves - so that we can be a force for good. Don’t ponder the past, or get bogged down by negative people in the present. Our job is to keep cool, and keep going.
For more about Jost: https://jostsauer.com/
For more about Leon: https://futurethingy.com/

Wednesday Jun 19, 2024
Wednesday Jun 19, 2024
If it feels like everything is happening all at once, you’re not alone. The past is colliding with the present in such an intense way that it’s hard not to feel the effects. Disagreements, emotionally charged conversations, war, conflict, and suffering; it’s trauma on every channel and there doesn’t seem to be a way to switch it off. But there’s a powerful way to to turn this trauma into something new.
The pain we’ve experienced over the course of multiple lifetimes is stored in the same way we store data on our phones and computers, and if we don’t clear our cache our system slows down and we find ourselves entangled by old emotions, ideas, and memories. So this week Jost and Leon get busy dropping the f word: forgetting! Jost talks about the baggage we carry with us from our past lives, why we get good or bad vibes from people we’ve only just met, how the power of acupuncture can clear out old data and set us up to create new worlds, and how there are always guides around to help us (and one even pops up during the pod to remind him!) Leon talks about the messages behind the underrated masterpiece Tron: Legacy, the beauty of simplifying complexity through design, and how he totally forgot to have asthma.
Jost and Leon also discuss off-roading in inappropriate vehicles, how to (not) pull a bank job on a skateboard, the future of currency, the 5 elements, spontaneous self becoming, phantom limbs, and how we shouldn’t focus on forgiveness, but rather, forgetting.
Things tend to make sense in hindsight, but we can’t quantify, predict or plan for what comes next because it’s imperceivable. Analysts, historians and experts can’t give us a map for the way forward. Instead of trying to know what’s happening next we have to embrace the unknown, and pave our way forward accordingly. But the first step is to erase the old and bring in the new. Go forget yourself!
For more about Jost: https://jostsauer.com/
For more about Leon: https://futurethingy.com/

Tuesday Jun 04, 2024
Tuesday Jun 04, 2024
In this episode of Future Chi Jost and Leon are broadcasting from their 4th studio location, and what turns out to be Jost’s 11th clinic since starting his practice in 1991. This leads them into the topics of new beginnings, adaptation, improvisation and paradigm shifts, and the importance of creativity when it comes to creating change and resisting the forces of darkness. They also kick things off with a discussion on Terrence Howard’s recent mind bending podcast with Joe Rogan and its implications on technology, spirituality, Newtonian physics, and Cartesian coordinates, and it’s parallels with Taoism and traditional Chinese Medicine.
Jost talks about the importance of knowing and living your true nature, the correlations between dark matter and cosmic chi (hint - they are one in the same), how to merge old knowledge with the new, and how the interaction between elements is more important than their individual properties. Jost also talks about the sharp rise in reactive patterns in people, communicating with ascended masters, and how the higher the state of consciousness we reach the less we’re able to talk about it. Leon talks about the value of being light and nimble when it comes to defeating the bad guys, the rebellious nature of true creativity, and removing yourself from the equation when it comes to picking sides. He also talks about alien cloaking devices and the value of creativity in education.
Jost and Leon also talk about the impact that judgement has on global conflicts, the recent failure of the WHO pandemic treaty, David vs Goliath, St. Germain, using divestment as a tool to create change, and what Spiritual Social Media would look like.
Every day is a chance to be reborn, and now’s the time to have faith in what you can’t see, react less but interact more, detach from judgement and don’t be afraid to wipe the slate clean and start over.
For more about Jost: https://jostsauer.com/
For more about Leon: https://futurethingy.com/

Tuesday May 21, 2024
Tuesday May 21, 2024
What is real? How do we define real? Is this the real life or is this just fantasy? Thought experiments, debates, and investigations into the nature of reality and whether or not we’re in a simulation have been ongoing for centuries. The further down the technological road we go, the increasingly relevant this discussion becomes. As we bear witness to computer generated worlds indistinguishable from (what we perceive as) reality, the question of illusion vs truth becomes more pressing. What if this is all just a simulation, but not a technological one? What if we aren’t being enslaved by AI overlords but are in fact benefitting from the simulation in order to achieve a higher goal?
In this episode Jost and Leon get real with a lively discussion on simulations, projections, the ‘afterlife’, and how we can stay connected to reality. Leon gets started (predictably) with pyramids and UFOs, and can’t resist referencing his all-time favourite movie The Matrix (which he may or may not have seen over 40 times). He also wonders if we should look at destiny as a rail or a road, and has a mid-podcast realisation that if you’re busy finding and following your purpose, then you’re less likely to stress about the nature of reality and will instead get busy creating it. Jost talks about the Taoist perspective on simulation and the way laughter, love, and experiences of the heart are ways to access base reality and instantly become real. He also talks about the concept of the higher self, the ‘life between lives’ as described by Michael Newton, what theorists, academics and scientists are missing when it comes to understanding the nature of reality, and how the feeling that there is something missing in ourselves is a result of how much soul energy we bring with us from the other side.
Jost and Leon also get into the danger of creating simulations within simulations, how negative forces are attempting to centralise their version of reality, and how decentralisation is the way forward in more ways than one. They also talk about mesh networks, quantum healing, the evolutionary leaps of Tai Chi, bar fights, how to properly experience socks, and how to fill voids in the soul.
That being said, no one can be told what this episode is… you have to listen to it yourself.
Check out Jost's 'Open the Portal to your Higher Self' video on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFvbchAzylE
For more about Jost: https://jostsauer.com/
For more about Leon: https://futurethingy.com/

Tuesday May 07, 2024
Tuesday May 07, 2024
The battle between opposing forces is palpable these days. Good and evil, light and dark, left and right…it’s hard to not become embroiled in who’s right and who’s wrong or to be forced to pick a side, and it feels like the future of everything hangs in the balance. But there’s a difference between feeling our way forward and being internally guided to do the right thing, versus being convinced, bullied or scared into subscribing the latest set of rules and ideologies.
The good news is we need opposing forces and polar opposites to create a field of reality to operate within…it’s why we’re here. We need challenges, battles to fight, and various fear factors to ignite our purpose and sharpen our skills, but this can take a wrong turn. Fear can also be weaponised and used to derail our journey through life and seperate us from ourselves.
In this episode Jost and Leon get into all aspects of fear - from a pre-podcast close encounter with a deadly spider to the progression of fear that can lead to anger, hate and ultimately the death of the soul. Jost talks about the confluence of pharmaceuticals, sedentary lifestyles and sugar filled diets that are destroying our bodies, how this detaches us from our inherent ability to heal ourselves, and how anything that is fear inducing must be recognised as a weapon. He also talks about the rise of transhumanism, and how the fear of death and reliance on tech can burn the bridge between us and our higher selves. Leon talks about the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man from Ghostbusters, Thoth the Atlantean, how to stay on your path despite the people who want to knock you off it, and the amazing abundance of information at our fingertips to help us through this next phase of existence.
Jost and Leon also talk about the prophetic nature of movies, the inverted nutritional value of Twinkies, boxing kangaroos, the turning tide of a mass awakening, the circus of Australian politics, and how the Taoists define the difference between fear and phobia.
When it comes to fear and those who want to control us the next steps are simple: laugh it off, build your spirit, access your own divinity and get strong. The more powerful we become, they weaker they get. Fight the fear!
For more about Jost: https://jostsauer.com/
For more about Leon: https://futurethingy.com/

Tuesday Apr 23, 2024
Tuesday Apr 23, 2024
What will the future bring? What was once an exciting, optimistic and limitless concept has now become something to be anxious about, fear and even criticise. But the future is a journey, not a destination, and while science fiction stories, movies and the design of everyday things often gives us a glimpse of what’s on the horizon, it’s still always tethered to the past. So how do we detach ourselves from outdated modalities and conditioning, ditch the negative baggage and get aboard the future train?
While we don’t know what tomorrow will bring, in this week’s episode Jost and Leon talk about all things past, present and future, and how we all need to play a roll in the redesign of everything - especially ourselves. After a muddy experience with his Mini, Jost gets into the reality of levitation, teleportation and telekinesis which even Western research says is within us all. He also talks about the new paradigms that are needed for us to see what’s already there, the timeless origins of Tai Chi, the need to disconnect from the old and tap into new sources of chi, and the importance of feeling good to create good design from the inside out. Leon discusses the late, great automotive designer Marcello Gandini, how futuristic design is still a reflection of the past, the optimism of the space age, and how we should no longer ask the audience’s opinion on anything.
Jost and Leon also chat about Asimov’s 3 laws of robotics, hoverboards, soul awakenings and the next spiritual revolution, the future of education, the challenges with being a creator, and the dark truth about Star Trek’s teleporters.
If we expect the future to resemble the past we’ll miss opportunities to create the new that’s desperately needed in the world. We can’t overthink it either, we have to just get out there, do it, and feel our way forward. Don’t fear the future, be the future.

Tuesday Apr 09, 2024
Tuesday Apr 09, 2024
The more we attempt to make sense of the world at the moment, the more confusing everything becomes. Up is down, left is right, and it’s feeling a lot like the inmates are running the asylum. But in a mad world is being crazy simply a matter of perspective? What do the words mad, crazy, or insane even mean?
With aspects of physical reality colliding left, right and centre, Jost and Leon get onboard the crazy train to try and decode not just what’s happening, but what we can do about it. Jost discusses his ‘mad’ past as a drug user, smuggler, hippy and outcast and the baffling recent developments in Germany as they simultaneously enter into a ‘pre-war’ phase and legalise marijuana. He also gets into the need to combine Eastern internal energy development with external Western strength training, how the focus on materiality moves us away from both the self and ultimately the soul, and the power of fear as a catalyst for evolution. Leon talks about the thin line between creativity and craziness, and the importance of being yourself when it comes to cultivating and sharing your passion with the world. Jost and Leon also talk about the superpowers of D3, Rupert Sheldrake and the morphogenetic field, Navy SEALs, and the surprising connection between spirituality and survival skills.
The more crazy and unstable things become the more fear and uncertainty increase, but these things are necessary for us to discover who we really are and what we’re capable of. We can’t have an incredible gift without a corresponding weakness or liability, so it’s our job to dig deep, face our fears, and become ourselves.
For more about Jost: https://jostsauer.com/
For more about Leon: https://futurethingy.com/

Tuesday Mar 26, 2024
Tuesday Mar 26, 2024
In this episode, Jost and Leon chew the fat on all things food - from agriculture, permaculture and industrial food production, to superfoods, alcohol, porridge and the mystery and misunderstandings around the topic of dieting.
The conversation kicks off on the topic of our unhealthy and unsustainable system of food production, the current uprising of farmers around the world, and how we must find a way forward that unifies technology, spirituality and our own intelligence. Monocultures and processed food are bad for the ecosystem and bad for our health, but there’s a deeper, internal issue that has to be addressed when it comes to food. Beyond just what we eat, the physical and mental state we’re in when we eat have a huge impact on our health and wellbeing.
Jost talks about the metabolic syndrome epidemic affecting 90% of the world, and how the underlying factor is not just poor food choices but stress and a lack of purpose. Jost also discusses the need to target emotionality before diet, how to see the body as its own permaculture system, the concept of happy foods, and his clinical observations of where vegan and raw diets can lead. Leon chats about the problems with one-size-fits-all solutions and the importance of doing what you can, with what you have, where you are.
Jost and Leon trade their very different experiences with alcohol and have an in-depth chat about what ‘good food’ really is. They also get into the indestructible cars of the 80’s, the correlation between road rage and sandwiches, Jost’s fruit loops breakfast recipe, belly fat, bottled air, and how the beginning of your day dictates the end.
Eating is about unification, not isolation, so it may be time to rethink your relationship with food. Don’t worry, eat happy!
For more about Jost: https://jostsauer.com/
For more about Leon: https://futurethingy.com/

Monday Mar 11, 2024
Monday Mar 11, 2024
Why do some people see through lies while others go along with them? What makes us either blindly follow the rules or challenge the prevailing narrative? What makes us feel safe, helps us make decisions, and allows us to freely and truthfully express ourselves? Turns out these things are all related and are affiliated with the small and humble amygdala. But what happens when it becomes damaged? What happens when we can’t regulate emotions like fear and anxiety? Inexplicable actions and downright chaos ensues, and this means there may very well be a biological basis for the bizarre behaviour over the past few years.
This week's episode tackles the heady topic of the human brain, with a special focus on the amygdala, which, according to the latest research, has lost its protective layers and is in sharp decline. But in true Future Chi fashion we don’t stay in the head; the rest of the body, mind, and spirit comes along for the ride too.
Jost and Leon discuss not only the insanity of recent years, but the path leading up to it, and how nutrient deficient foods, sedentary lifestyles and mental weakness left many exposed and susceptible to manipulation. Jost talks about the energy Organs in Chinese medicine and how they must work in concert, the need to upgrade our hardware (body) to deal with life’s challenges, and how Earth is the hardest planet in the multiverse to exist on. Leon talks about cerebral warfare, mental immunity, pushovers, and how to avoid internalising the industrial process.
Jost and Leon also talk the repetitive cycle of the broken political system and the imperative for personal responsibility and preparedness when dealing with societal challenges. True unity and the evolution of humankind hinge on our actions, rather than faith in a new leader. They also chat about jazz, James Dean, zombie hordes, mass formation phenomenon, fringe living, invisible amygdala monsters and the brain eating chimera from The Relic movie.
It’s now more important than ever to defend against the fear and negativity that others are spreading, by strengthening your energy armour through how you live: breath work, nutrition, and connecting to the cosmic chi grid. Keep the defences strong, fight off the energy vampires and mindless mobs, and guard your internal world from external chaos. May the chi be with you!
For more about Jost: https://jostsauer.com/
For more about Leon: https://futurethingy.com/

Jost Sauer
Jost is a healthy lifestyle expert. He is an author, acupuncturist, and has been a therapist since the 80s.
Jost Sauer was also an ex-addict, dealer and deserter who kickstarted a recovery revolution with his groundbreaking rehab program. Jost pioneered lifestyle medicine for addiction and then adapted this for everyone as the Chi Cycle lifestyle; a health-boosting, fat-burning feel-good day plan.
Jost has treated tens of thousands of people including celebrities, CEOs and athletes, with his Chi Cycle Health System, and offers training and retreats. His passion is to show everyone how to make every day medicinal and magical…

Leon Fitzpatrick
Leon is an industrial, interaction, and experience designer, futurist, illustrator, storyteller, and educator. Leon operates Futurethingy - a design consultancy and change agency that envisions future states - such as products, transportation, cities, and systems - through design and narrative. This future is ethical, sustainable, and optimistic.
Leon studied industrial design at the College for Creative Studies in Detroit. At Motorola Inc. in Chicago he designed products and concepts, produced videos, and was an eco-design lead. At design consultancy MINIMAL Leon designed products and concepts, produced videos, and art directed for clients such as Microsoft, Xbox, Nike, and Dell. Leon has extensive international experience as an independent consultant, working with the US automotive industry for several years on rapid prototyping, empirical research and vision projects for electric and autonomous vehicles, and the future of mobility.